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DAExplores • 1 year ago
not a bug, the map feature is part of the subscription service
aeb00 • 1 year ago
I seem to have no access to who is invited to my private locations anymore. Is that part of the subscription now or a glitch?
Straubsghosts • 1 year ago
I can only think of the London Psychiatric Hospital. The newer section was all torn down, but the grand old building still stands.
kimchirichie • 1 year ago
all existing members are on the free tier. virtually most of the features which were previously available are still available for free tier members. the subscription users will be able to enjoy more convenience features.
So what happens to existing members?
CellarDoor • 1 year ago
Maybe put a link to those FAQs on the subscription page?
whoops, not community tab. resources tab.
did my best to write up 5 or so FAQs for this, check it out under the community tab, faqs. let me know if I missed anything
+1 to adding a note to the subscription page that explains why it's needed and where the money goes, hopefully that would avoid confusion like this in the future.
Autyy • 1 year ago
I think you should look around the site more before jumping to conclusions
There are a bunch around Toronto and in the GTA but you aren't going to get freebies unfotunately. Level up and be active in the community and I'm sure you'll get there
I completely agree with kimchirichie. The perspective I used to justify the subscription is that it costs you 10 times more per month for gas or fares getting to these places, so putting some of that towards the community makes sense to me. What I think could improve is a long block of text somewhere explaining exactly what the subscription does for the user, what it does for the site, and why it's needed. But regardless of that I'll share my thoughts. As kimchirichie said, not having the subscription doesn't mean that you don't have access to the site, or are blocked off from some content. That is still all free. A level 2 member with no subscription has access to the exact same locations as a level 2 member with a premium subscription. Though I believe there will be a fee to level up being implimented in the near future, there will never be a part of the site where you can void the requirements and just buy your way up. Also, it's not like the money goes into someone's pocket. It immediately goes into the $27,000+ that has been spent on this site since kimchirichie has taken over, and only got about $1200 in revenue since he started, not including the new subscriptions. I'm not sure he'll ever get that 27,000 back but as long as the community is helping to make the $400 monthly fee not come out of his pocket, it’s okay. I think it’s completely reasonable, and maybe even owed to the server that we cough up $5 every month.
we had a big community discussion around the topic on our discord. the site has been steadily burning through my pocket for 2 years since my take over. you can check the OAP financial details which were made public. my decision was to bring down the server if we are unable to get to financial sustainability by 2024. so we came up with the subscription idea as a community. as a one man dev team, i devoted a lot of my weekends over the last two years to service this urbex community. it would be very sad for me to bring the service down. but that doesn't mean we compromise our values. all necessary informational features is not and will not be paywalled. higher tiers have access to convenience features. and we are absolutely not implementing any pay-to-play scheme. if you want to support this community, please consider chipping in. 5 bucks a month is all it takes for each of our members to help out with the infrastructure part of this community.
qkthr_aa • 1 year ago
My thoughts exactly, honestly the ‘subscription’ model is also just extremely confusing in general
trespasseverywhere • 1 year ago
hey matt. welcome! for most of your questions, my annoying answer is "it depends where you're exploring". in more high stakes and sensitive locations, low numbers equal a lower profile, but there are many places where it's fine to bring a group. during the first halloween of quarantine i brought about a dozen friends to explore an old barn and homestead since we couldn't celebrate together indoors. for most explores i usually go alone or with 1 or 2 friends. in city settings i wouldn't recommend enormous teams. in terms of what to bring, depends what you're trying to get into. for most places i just bring a flashlight and a camera. if you plan on breaking in you might need a crowbar or bolt cutters. the problem with bringing tools is that it becomes hard to plead naivety if you are caught with them. dont carry anything you cant ditch if you have to run. as you explore further i am sure you will naturally find the answers to many of your questions and your own rhythm. cities as a rule are harder places to find locations since a closer eye is kept on things and real estate tends to change hands quickly. if you have a car, my advice would be to drive around new or proposed subdivisions. there are often old houses slated for eventual demolition. the outskirts of a city are a great place for beginners to start.